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« on: July 28, 2013, 08:43:51 PM »

  Everyone seems to be into the AR15 or AK platform, but I'm a FAL guy.  Finally got it out to the range to work out my gas system bugs. Yay.

Cooling down. Still working on getting the Huskey Amentum sling adjusted for me. Nice quick-adjust wide/padded carrying section for these burly rifles. Smith Ent vortex flash hider as well. I find it's smaller (shorter) and easier to clean than the original and it's supposed to be a phenomenally effective flash hider.


The mag on the stock carrier is empty, but it does help in getting my cheek in the same spot every time. Not so sure about carrying another 20 rounds of 308 on the gun in addition to the ones in the active mag!


VLTOR 'rail' and metric folding charging handle  I did not like the original plastic handgrips that just felt cheap and heated up real quick.


Ergo grip, oversize safety and mag release for those of us with fat thumbs. Grip also has storage where I keep a spare battery, broken case extractor, and allan key for scope turrets.  Not seen are the new sear/springs in the trigger group dropping the pull from about 13 pounds (!!!) to what feels about 6, and it doesn't feel like it's two pieces of 60 grit sandpaper dragging across each other!


Nice and low to the bore. Warne QD rings for when it's time for irons. Replaced the tombstone sight with the para A2 style sight.


Leopold fire dot. Wasn't sure about it at first, but I'm really liking it nowadays. May get a 1-4x version for my lever gun.


The DSA heavy duty cover also has mounting holes for their brass catcher. Best thing ever for those that don't like hunting for their brass.


Anyways, it was frickin' hot at the range but at least I got it all cycling again after having a case head separation 'incident' there about a month ago!
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 04:28:02 PM »

nice weapon Mark!!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 05:44:48 AM »

Beautiful!
I've thought about the brass catcher, and even priced a few mesh ones.  I'm a little concerned about the weight/balance issue, especially when I'm firing from any position other than bench.  Do you just swap it out after each magazine?  Am I being paranoid about weight/balance?  Does it ever catch on anything when moving about?
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2013, 09:34:52 AM »

The catcher is made by DSA for their heavy duty rail cover, so it's not like the generic strap-on catchers you see for ARs and such.  I don't find those work so well as they jam up the works some times if brass can't eject cleanly into them.  The one that I have mounts via holes in the side of the cover, so it's custom only for the DSA rail cover.  The nice thing about it is that you can open it at the bottom, so that it'll just drop brass at your feet if you're at a bench or standing in place.  I have shot perhaps 20-30 rounds quickly (testing mags) and it took all the brass without issue and didn't overfill or jam anything.  I was hesitant when I first got it as it looked kinda small, but it's working well so far.  You are correct, though: fill it up with a bunch of brass and you will start to feel the weight off to the side.  It's not a lot considering the weight of the loaded rifle, but you can definitely notice it.

That all being said, the FAL is not known for being a lightweight firearm, and when I'm firing off a pile of 308, that's kind of a nice thing.  Aside from a carbine length AR10, I don't know of any 'light' 308 rifle.  I don't recall my M1A (since sold) being terribly light even with the polymer stock.  Also consider that a mag of 20 308 is perhaps double the weight of 30 223 rounds, so the weight of the rifle is generally around the receiver front end when you're loaded up.  One of these days I'll weigh out and calculate the CG of it with and without a mag/optics and see what it is, but I'm just having a pile of fun shooting it as is.  After shooting the FAL for a while, I can almost shoot an AR one-handed!

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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 08:16:33 AM »

Very Nice. Love Gun Porn
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2013, 01:29:17 PM »

Yup.   Good 'ol 30 cal goodness.  Going to give it a little usage this weekend.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2013, 10:53:02 PM »

Good for you Mark. Be good and be safe as well as a great Christmas.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2015, 09:24:07 PM »

This gun is AWESOME!!!!! How does the FAL run compared to an AR-10?
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2015, 10:27:46 PM »

I've run the following 30's (in order):

1) M1A:  Newer "Standard" version.  Shot well, typical good 2-stage trigger, but the build quality sucked.  The new ones are a shadow of the older ones.  Poor fitted stock, parts came loose, etc.  One of the hammer hooks sheared off one day.  It was a brittle MIM part from some South American country.  Had the other one come off as well, the thing would've gone full auto.  SA refused to replace MIM parts with either GI or aftermarket.  Ended up telling them to pack sand up their 'lifetime warranty' on a substandard piece of equipment and got my money back.  It was a little bulky for me and had the worst recoil of everything I'd shot.

2) Rock River LAR-8 (AR-10):  Nice rig (MOA shooter), but it was a jam-o-matic.  Could not get any more than 5 rounds through that thing without having to whak the charging handle or buttstock a bunch to get the case out of the chamber.  On top of that, RRA claimed it could use the cheap FAL mags.  It was BS (still doesn't from what I understand) and then they gave additional BS about having both the platform and the mags in consistant production.  The mags never materialized in over a year and they could never fix my jamming issue even after 2 recalls to them.  Too bad.  It was super lightweight and shot well when it ran.  Loved the RRA 2 stage trigger so much that it's what I have on my AR15 now.

3) DSA FAL:  Currently my 30 cal.  Purchased it as it was my last real option plus I had a few of the mags that I bought for the LAR-8.  It has shot everything at about 1.5-2 MOA, though I've managed a hot hand load to touch 0.75-1.0 MOA.  Zero problems.  In fact, I had some russian TULA ammo blow up in the chamber (case head seaparation). This resulted in a blown out mag and the removal of a bunch of hair from my right hand.  Otherwise, it took me about 2 weeks to get the case out of the chamber.  After that, gave it a scrubbing, checked the chamber and headspace, and it's still shooting the same.  Needless to say, I'm sticking with the FAL.  I'm pretty sure it'd shoot and with dog turds in a case.  Easy to clean, cool to run (piston), but it is kinda heavy.  Out of the box, the triggers are quite heavy (12 lbs or so) and the sights are rudimentary at best.  Don't expect match accuracy out of this true battle rifle, though mine is pretty good.  It's also not the easiest to get optics on, but that is becoming less of an issue.  I've also noted that they're getting harder to find and more expensive.  Glad I've got mine!

That being said, I've not shot a 'real' AR10. I've never had an Armalite, DPS, or any other known manufacturer.  The BIG advantage of an AR10 is that it feels like a big AR15, runs like an AR15, and it's significantly lighter than most other 30-cal platforms.  But my FAL has never taken a dump that wasn't caused directly by either me (ex. not seating a mag) or by a crappy surplus magazine.  They just work.  I wouldn't mind trying another AR10 (ex. Armalite or Windham Weaponry), but right now my safe is full enough with 30-cal rifles!

Speaking of which: range trip tomorrow with the M1 Garand.  Did some work on it and have to reinstall the front sight.  This means I have to re-zero it.  Oh well; I suppose I'm forced to go to the range again.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2015, 06:29:52 PM »

Man that is cooler then Eskimo Poo.

Would love to Fondle that.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2015, 08:51:56 PM »

....that's what she said.

Perhaps sometime when we're in the same area that could be accomplished.  I wonder when that could possibly happen?
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2015, 09:09:35 AM »


Speaking of which: range trip tomorrow with the M1 Garand.  Did some work on it and have to reinstall the front sight.  This means I have to re-zero it.  Oh well; I suppose I'm forced to go to the range again.  Smiley

Funny on this, I'm about to take off the front sight on mine. Bought a ported gas plug so I can shoot any 30-06 ammo through it. Just gotta find something big enough to back out the gas plug now. That's been a challenge.

I have often thought the M1 Garand get looks over for a great prepping weapon. 8 rounds of 30-06 in a semi auto weapon can put a TON of hurt on someone. With practice it can be reloaded quite quickly as well and could put a ton of hurt on someone. That's a lot of power going down range at a high firing rate. It's definitely a gun that I think could surprise some people in it's usefulness.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2016, 05:57:21 PM »

That is a beautiful rifle, not anything like I shot in the Canadian army many years ago.  How is that Leopold scope holding out?  FAL's are notorious for kicking the crap out of a scope, must be the heavy carrier group.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 07:37:16 PM »

I've had other scopes crap out on it, but the Leupold is doing fine as near as I can tell.  Oddly enough, I don't find the recoil on it near as bad as I found on a M1A.  Must be the weight.

I'm sure that CAN one was pretty basic.  Most folks around here don't even know what an FAL is when they see it.  They know it's a 308 when it goes off, though!  Smiley

I've got a suppressor (SilencerCo Omega) on the way as well.  It's more for my bolt gun, but it'll fit the FAL and the AR with quick-connect flash hiders.  I might geek out and bring my SPL meter over to the range and take a few measures with it when I get the can in.  6 months and waiting....sheesh.  You'd think we were an untrustworthy bunch or somthing!
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